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psilocybin
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Newbie with a few Q's

Postby psilocybin » Tue Oct 22, 2002 12:11 pm

Hello I am a new user. I have used several other 3d engines in the past but they always came up limitations. Offcourse every engine must have his limits but I was just wondering what the limit of blender would be?
I haven't read thru the docs or anything yet but I was just looking for a few quick answers.

what is the maximum number of entities? (entities are 3d objects/elements that can be assigned a individual script )

Is there also direct 3d support?

How good is blender compared to the cheap commercial engines such as 3Dgamestudio 3DRAD Blitz3D DarkBasic and other free engines like crystal space fly 3d etc?

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Postby OTO » Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:39 pm

Hello psicocybin

Blender is a "generalist" game engine.
Graphically at the top, but very down in fps's
Entities don't exist in Blender.
Forget your BSP technologies engines
Blender is WYSYWYG engine :)
No more VIS or Compile. You do, you play, instantly :)
That's why he's so slow
I guess we can't do a "big and serious" game with
Blender, but for show your ideas to the others
with high-quality graphics Blender is perfect.
Please , go to the www.elYsiun.com for questions
about the game engine.
The comunity is around there
Bye
António

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Postby gorgan_almighty » Tue Oct 22, 2002 5:38 pm

OTO wrote:I guess we can't do a "big and serious" game with
Blender,


you can easily do big serious games in blender. im workin on a big serious RPG at the moment and blenders fine for my purposes. :)

the physics engine and the logic bricks allow you to easily make a simple game in WYSIWYG but if you combine this with blenders support for Python scripting then literally the only limits are your imagination, cos you could achieve almost any effect or event using python. :D

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Postby Eric » Tue Oct 22, 2002 5:48 pm

OTO wrote:That's why he's so slow

That's not true. The "low" fps is due to that the engine needs alittle optimations. Thought I never get bad FPS in it :D . Blenderpublisher is alot faster than old 2.23 too.

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Postby Saluk » Tue Oct 22, 2002 6:35 pm

As far as an entity limit, it really depends on how MUCH script or logic you give to them. THe more logic, the more your going to slow down, scripts on the other hand are usually pretty fast. But there seems to be almost a set limit of about 300 entities maximum from my tests before it starts to slow down, if all the entities are very BASIC. It also depends a lot on the computer you run it on as well. But as the engine gets optomized, it will get better and faster:)

If you are one with it's limitations, you can easily do a serious game with Blender, but as far as graphical power and speed go it's a bit on the low end of things.

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Postby OTO » Tue Oct 22, 2002 7:24 pm

Ok ok, don't beat me anymore

Please note the quotes and the smiles

I'll wait (sit down) for the "fast, big and serious" games
Bye
António

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Postby snowy_duck » Tue Oct 22, 2002 10:39 pm

u said that since we don't compile blender it's frame rate is slowed down. well is there a way the compile it? like have a quick P-start for testing and stuff and then for a more public use compile it?

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Postby Eric » Tue Oct 22, 2002 11:04 pm

snowy_duck wrote:u said that since we don't compile blender it's frame rate is slowed down. well is there a way the compile it? like have a quick P-start for testing and stuff and then for a more public use compile it?

What do you mean by "compile blender"?...explain alittle more.

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Postby nay » Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:34 am

I saw on the blendergames.com site their is an app you can download to compile exe files from game blender files, shame it's windows only :(

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Postby OTO » Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:53 am

Most Pro game engines (Quake-Half Life ...) compile to pre-calculate visible
or invisible polygons, lights shadows, and other things.
That's why they're faster.
Blender don't need compilation. Once it's made you press P and you're in "PLAY" mode.

You don't need extra apps now.
BLENDER PUBLISHER is available FREE for all.
Just download it here in the site.
You can make .EXE with it.
But no compile :)
Bye
António

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Postby gorgan_almighty » Wed Oct 23, 2002 4:07 pm

OTO wrote:You don't need extra apps now.
BLENDER PUBLISHER is available FREE for all.


Yeah but trouble is any1 can open any1 elses EXEs. Well I say they can anyway, some other people say they cant, check my 'publisher key' post on news & chat and try it out i want 2 know if u guys can get it 2 work as well.

does this 1 on blendergames.com have the same trouble?

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Postby gorgan_almighty » Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:09 pm

OTO wrote:I'll wait (sit down) for the "fast, big and serious" games


lol yeah i really want 2 get on and get my game at least playable so that i can release a demo of it and get feedback but its slow work with lots of work to do for uni, i dont get much tiime for blender any more :( Stay tuned for a future release but dont hold your breath. 8)

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Postby OTO » Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:44 pm

Yes, i understand you very well.
Make a game, even a little and not serious one, is a long task.
I guess that a "pro" company took Blender to make a game, maybe they
succeed, maybe??!!
But i guess that even "pros" don't know if they "can do it"
That's why they took Quake 3 engine.
That way they know!!
Bye
António


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