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Please post 'how to use Blender' questions at elysiun.com

Postby dittohead » Sat Feb 22, 2003 1:03 am

do not post questions about using blender here.

these are the forums for development, not asking questions about blender as an art tool.

go here for fo blender's end user forums: http://www.elysiun.com

thanks, and admin please pin this.
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Postby matt_e » Sat Feb 22, 2003 1:24 am

Yes, I'd like to see this pinned too.

Additionally, for non English speaking Blender users, there are various international websites and user forums in many different languages here: http://www.blender3d.org/Community/

There are also a few quick start tutorials as an intro to Blender here:
http://www.blender3d.org/Education

Cheers

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Postby joeri » Sat Mar 01, 2003 12:53 am

Maybe I did not read the README correct but it says:

More information about Blender can be found at:

- The product website
http://www.blender3d.org
- The artist/coder community website
http://www.blender.org
- The development website
http://projects.blender.org


This means in my opinion;
Artists and Coders are welcome in www.blender.org
and coders should bore projects.blender.org

Am I correct ?

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Postby ilac » Sat Mar 01, 2003 11:41 am

joeri wrote:Maybe I did not read the README correct but it says:

More information about Blender can be found at:

- The product website
http://www.blender3d.org
- The artist/coder community website
http://www.blender.org
- The development website
http://projects.blender.org


This means in my opinion;
Artists and Coders are welcome in www.blender.org
and coders should bore projects.blender.org

Am I correct ?


Yes & no! :D
If I remember correctly:
Ton had described the Artist/Coder interaction on at www.blender.org in terms of blender development. ie. The artists can discuss the development of Blender, new implemented features, give feedback, etc, etc. with the coders but not as a home for newbie artists to ask 'How-to' questions. These were to be handled by the other more artist/community dedicated sites like elYsiun, with the help of blender3D.org which should have some resources, tutorials and manuals.
Always if I remember correctly! :P

Plus, There is already a huge resource of information at the elYsiun forums, so I think it is better to always direct newbies there first. It would also be nice if the old blender.nl forums could be put up at Blender3D, even if it's all locked up and can only be used for research. There was a real lot of information over there too! :(

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Postby odyssey » Tue Mar 04, 2003 3:40 pm

joeri,

You're correct; in the context of your quote, even a programmer / coder must concede that syntax is everything.

As much I as I like visiting elysiun, the development, product and community website is listed as http://www.blender3d.org .

Maybe a stronger User link could be placed outside the forums, say on the main page? :wink:

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Postby matt_e » Tue Mar 04, 2003 10:50 pm

The reason I've been sending people who ask questions about using Blender to elysiun.com is purely pragmatic. There are already dedicated forums set up at elysiun expressly for the purpose of helping people out with probems that they may have. People willing to help people out are more likely to be reading the Q&A forums at elysiun than they are here. I think if blender.org were to be turned into a Q&A place too, then people would get frustrated having to visit two different places to help others out, and our 'tech support base' would get spread thinly.

The forums here aren't really set up to be a tech support board - it's aimed at discussion regarding Blender. That's not to say that artists are unwelcome here; the development process is about much more than raw coding, and these boards are designed to allow communication about different topics regarding Blender's progression and future development.

I'd say that blender.org is for development (rather than tech support), but my meaning is closer to the dictionary definition of 'development'. Not just programming, but related to how Blender is developing over time.

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Postby joeri » Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:46 am

This is all very confussing to me.
What is the Education section about then?

Educating on how to use c++ ?

O wait, I get it.
This is the place to discuss
"How to make stuff to educate people how to use blender."
(Current stuff being made to educate people on using blender is the redirect to Elysiun)

And what is to be discussed in http://projects.blender.org ?

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Postby matt_e » Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:22 pm

As far as I can see, the education section is for people teaching 3D, using Blender, such as Pablosbrain. I think Ton made the forum when he was trying to get entries for the siggraph 'educators program' which is about teaching people to use 3D. Perhaps a better name for the forum would be 'educators' rather than 'education'? I don't know... :?

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Postby Carnivore » Thu Mar 27, 2003 7:20 pm

Great, great...

I was just wondering about a shadowing problem and I thought I could come here and ask someone if my ideas to correct it would be correct and what I should do. Then I could finish my very first artistic scene (yes, i'm very new to this). Now I see someone basically telling me to fuck off. *sigh* now i've lost all hope in blending for at least 1 week. Bye. I'll be off to curse you now... *sigh*

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Postby ilac » Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:39 pm

Carnivore wrote:Great, great...

I was just wondering about a shadowing problem and I thought I could come here and ask someone if my ideas to correct it would be correct and what I should do. Then I could finish my very first artistic scene (yes, i'm very new to this). Now I see someone basically telling me to fuck off. *sigh* now i've lost all hope in blending for at least 1 week. Bye. I'll be off to curse you now... *sigh*


The only person telling you to fuck off is your imagination! :? What this thread is trying to say is that for the sort of questions you appear to be about to ask (ie. from an artistic point of view) are better asked on Elysiun:

http://www.elysiun.com/forum/index.php

There you are more likely to get help and advice as the experienced artistic community is much larger. There is also a wealth of information from previous posts you can rummage through. So what people were 'basically' doing is directing you to where you were going to get the most help. :wink:

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Postby matt_e » Fri Mar 28, 2003 1:12 am

I edited the topic subject to make it a bit more friendly and try and eliminate confusion...

I think what most people here are trying to say is that there are lots of experienced artists willing to answer questions at elysiun.com, there are a whole heap of previously asked questions that you can search through to find out if it's been asked before and quickly find an answer. Therefore it makes more sense for users to ask 'how to use' questions at elysiun.com since they'll get much better results.

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Postby Carnivore » Fri Mar 28, 2003 7:28 pm

ehh whatever i was in a crappy mood yesterday(the day before ´yesterday?) and when i saw this topic i just had to curse someone. sorry for taking this out on you. but hasn't elysiun.com been shut down? cant seem to get contact


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