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by xype
Sun Jun 08, 2003 8:06 pm
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: N.G.B or Future 3D technology DISCUSSION (We need one)
Replies: 85
Views: 12156

Ergo: non-coders like myself have no say in the matter of NGB. I get it. Wrong again. Just don't expect anyone to write code to your ideas. Give input, beta test, give feedback and then coders will likely start implementing your ideas as well. It's only since Blender developers are doing it in thei...
by xype
Sat Jun 07, 2003 10:57 pm
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: N.G.B or Future 3D technology DISCUSSION (We need one)
Replies: 85
Views: 12156

On Verse: First and foremost it's not "internet" based, but network based. So for people working in a company doing 3D animations the speed of a 100MBit network is quite enough, and considering most new "pro" hardware comes with GigaBit network cards the problem of bandwidth is even smaller. Second,...
by xype
Sat Jun 07, 2003 12:06 am
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: Reply to NGB/VERSE "controversy"
Replies: 24
Views: 4592

dreamerv3 wrote:As far as lumtiple users collaborating on a project, I wouldn't mind that at all, as long as its an option and not a requirement. Some artists like to work alone you have to consider.


Which part of my previous post exactly is it, that you don't understand?
by xype
Sat Jun 07, 2003 12:02 am
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: N.G.B or Future 3D technology DISCUSSION (We need one)
Replies: 85
Views: 12156

dreamerv3, I don't know whether you did read any of the replies (I guess you didn't), but I think that you are wrong with both of your main points. 1) If NGB uses Verse, it will most likely implement a Verse Server, which means NGB itself wont need to send that data it already has to itself via UPD ...
by xype
Fri Jun 06, 2003 5:08 pm
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: N.G.B or Future 3D technology DISCUSSION (We need one)
Replies: 85
Views: 12156

So, I would warn against making the components too small. I think that a general rule of thumb would be: if a piece of a program depends on another piece in order to run (or be useful), they should be combined into one program. Because if there are dependancies, it would be rather pointless (not to...
by xype
Fri Jun 06, 2003 12:03 pm
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: N.G.B or Future 3D technology DISCUSSION (We need one)
Replies: 85
Views: 12156

Maybe they are... You could perhaps clear something up for me. Let's do the Quake comparison: The client/server model of Q Arena is probably something like a) a game engine (server), and b) gamers connecting to that (clients). The gamers could be real persons on their own computers, or they could b...
by xype
Fri Jun 06, 2003 9:00 am
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: N.G.B or Future 3D technology DISCUSSION (We need one)
Replies: 85
Views: 12156

I was under the impression that Verse was a networking 'protocol'. I'm just talking about good old dynamically linked libraries or equivalent sitting nicely in my own box. Most other applications I have used are divided into a bunch of subprograms (in my case they are DLL's), but that has absolutel...
by xype
Fri Jun 06, 2003 7:20 am
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: Reply to NGB/VERSE "controversy"
Replies: 24
Views: 4592

The part I really don't like is the whole "network" deal. I ( and a great many other people too I would bet) want my data to sit on MY machine. Opinions? The "whole network deal" is just an option. You don't have to take each thing that is described as an option (alternative UIs, networked 3D, etc)...
by xype
Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:11 am
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: N.G.B or Future 3D technology DISCUSSION (We need one)
Replies: 85
Views: 12156

It wouldn't even have to be limited to conversions for rendering. Since PreRender would read native blenderdata, it could facilitate all sorts of export. It could be considered as a general blender scene decoder. http://www.blender.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=8652#8652 W...
by xype
Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:02 am
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: Reply to NGB/VERSE "controversy"
Replies: 24
Views: 4592

Edit: long post again, I hope I got everything halfway right and do not look like a fool :wink: Hmm, seems like a diagram or two would be in order to visualise what Verse really is (it's not a GUI) and in what context it stands to NGB. Basically you have 3D Data and an Application (NGB, Blender, May...
by xype
Thu Jun 05, 2003 8:31 am
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: Reply to NGB/VERSE "controversy"
Replies: 24
Views: 4592

Re: Reply to NGB/VERSE "controversy"

Edit: sorry for the uber-long post. Well I'm makign an assumption here that OpenGL2.0 was based around the design discisions of hardware manufacturers of NVidia and SGI and such.. Hardware is different from software in that its usually not the arrangement of existing technology, it involves a lot of...
by xype
Wed Jun 04, 2003 1:38 pm
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: N.G.B or Future 3D technology DISCUSSION (We need one)
Replies: 85
Views: 12156

Lots of concepts sound exciting but you have to keep in mind that at the end someone will be coding NGB and if it's not you, he/she will probably use other concepts and only code stuff he/she thinks is worth spending time on. Once NGB is well into its development process the only thing to change it ...
by xype
Tue Jun 03, 2003 9:14 am
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: N.G.B or Future 3D technology DISCUSSION (We need one)
Replies: 85
Views: 12156

Upside: One could render out animations at a blazingly high speed. Downside: Just about everything else except for the speed-issue. Uhm, well, maybe you should put more trust in people like Ton and the Blender core (coders) group to make decisions that are good for Blender's future and not simply b...
by xype
Mon Jun 02, 2003 4:44 pm
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: Making money with an opensource effort, lets be straight..
Replies: 22
Views: 4910

Just who is passing Eskil's previous work (Loq etc.) as the NGB? I beg you pardon, who wants a UI rewrite? If anything, the UI itself will be completely independant from Verse and from all the work going on with Ghost and Blender's current UI I don't see any evidence that it will be replaced just-li...
by xype
Mon Jun 02, 2003 8:19 am
Forum: News & Chat
Topic: Making money with an opensource effort, lets be straight..
Replies: 22
Views: 4910

Oh. My. God. First, NGB is not trying to hijack anything. Is it _that_ hard to understand that VERSE IS A PROTOCOL. Noone is disrespecting the work done on Blender until now. Noone is saying that Verse will become Blender (Duh! You can't change a 3D app with a protocol that simply stores data!). And...