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verse 2.0 finaly out.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 1:47 pm
by eskil
Sorry for the delay but verse 2.0 was just released at .This is a complete rewrite and will be the fresh new base for the Next Gen Project.

So far there are no applications using it, or even a server. but you can bet you ass i going to get out new software fast now. expect new versions of all my verse related apps soon. and expect to get a little move on the Next Gen Blender project too.

Have fun


Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 2:30 pm
by Money_YaY!
Hey essiee
I know I know... about your mac how it is no longer with you.
But I must plead with you to look for a Mac coder to compile your verse
stuff so all can enjoy for labor. I know that anyone can do such but sometimes
it takes is a little asking around to wake up the crowd. Try posting again
on say that it is the NeoBlender and that it has to
be compiled to work. Somebody there would most likly try. We love eye
candy ya know.

cheese rice ^v^

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:42 pm
by eskil
Well first, I need to write a server, until then there is really nothing to compile. How ever I am working on getting a solution to the OSX versions.


Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:48 am
by Netspider
Hey Eskil, what's wrong with your site? I have to click "Refresh" for about five times. Only after that the background is showing up and I can read text...

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:16 pm
by Oso

I've been trying to compile the new Verse on a SuSE 8.1 machine with no luck. I can't seem to compile any of the source files. I saw in your README.TXT that it needs to be compiled twice, but I can't get past the first pass. :(

If I can resolve this, I plan to compile on RedHat and probably Debian as well. (I have Windows 2000 machines, but I'm noteven gonna attempt that!)

I looked through the original doc for Verse on the web site and I have a question: For only the new Verse what external libraries are required?

Also In the distro I downloaded, the files v_func_gen.c and "v_cmd _gen.c" (note the space in the filename before _gen) are both empty. Is that correct?

Any help is apprecated.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 8:48 pm
by eskil
Ok, lets see. The empty files are just my bad, I was in a hurry when putting the zip together, ignore them.

The original verse is different, it requires, Glib, Pthreads and other things. My implementation only needs sockets and std lib. All the stuff that requires socks can be found in "v_network.h" if you get this one to run you should have no problems.

What kind of errors do you get?


Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 2:58 pm
by Oso
Verse/verse2source> gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-suse-linux/3.2/specs
Configured with: ../configure --enable-threads=posix --prefix=/usr --with-local-prefix=/usr/local --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --libdir=/usr/lib --enable-languages=c,c++,f77,objc,java,ada --enable-libgcj --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/g++ --with-slibdir=/lib --with-system-zlib --enable-shared --enable-__cxa_atexit i486-suse-linux
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.2
Verse/verse2source> gcc -fPIC v_network.c
v_network.c:26: warning: redefinition of `uint'
/usr/include/sys/types.h:152: warning: `uint' previously declared here
v_network.c: In function `v_n_get_socket':
v_network.c:57: `v_n_socket' undeclared (first use in this function)
v_network.c:57: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
v_network.c:57: for each function it appears in.)
v_network.c: In function `v_n_create_network_address':
v_network.c:120: `i' undeclared (first use in this function)
v_network.c:125: `their_port' undeclared (first use in this function)
v_network.c: At top level:
v_network.c:159: parse error before "boolean"
v_network.c: In function `v_n_receive_data':
v_network.c:166: `address' undeclared (first use in this function)
v_network.c:169: `data' undeclared (first use in this function)
v_network.c:169: `length' undeclared (first use in this function)
I get the same errors without the PIC option.

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2003 8:35 pm
by eskil
Ok we seams to have a few redefinition's...

v_n_socket should be just "sock"...
we have 2 definitions on the wrong side of the ifdef...
some thing is fishy in func: v_n_receive_data too..

I will do some fixes and get a new version ot some time this week end. I am currently working on the server and I am also involved in a lot of stuff to try to give some extra funding to the project. I will be away the major part of next week but i hope we can get a new server running fairly soon.


Peace now. if you want to

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 8:53 am
by wavk
Hi Eskil,

Congratulations! You've got Nil Salentil in 3dWorld! :D

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 4:08 pm
by eskil
Cool I had no idea!! and thank you.

Must check it out! what issue?
I should release a new version to honor the occasion. I have been gone this week but now Im back!


Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 4:21 pm
by wavk
It's in the march issue, with gollum on the front! On page sixteen "New Discreet and Quel Solaar colour-management tools". :D

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 4:28 pm
by eskil
Thanks! Ill run out and get it!


Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 3:53 am
by gargola
did i miss something? what the heck is verse? :?:

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:47 pm
by Oso

I know you're a busy guy. Just wondering if you had a chance to put the fixes into the verse server yet.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:49 pm
by eskil
>I know you're a busy guy

nah, its mostly an act.. ;-)

I have uploaded a new zip file with the updates.


verse is a network protocol for 3d graphics. the plan is to try to build the next gen blender using this protocol.

you can read about verse here: ... r-emil.pdf

and about next gen blender here:


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