Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:09 am
Perhaps. But you should be aware that most people except of Italians don't understand Italian and if everyone would write in his/ her native language... whoooo... Better not think about it. But I give it a try in understanding...harmonic wrote:Maybe my English is not so good... may be I'm not be able to explain so well... so I will explain in My main language...
What do you mean? Is it incredible that there are people on the world that don't share your opinions? Or that people where not waiting for a self-declared highness telling them what is right and what not? Not at all.E' incredibile... ho avuto a che fare con gente di tutti i tipi ma come in questo posto mai... lo giuro!!
Yeah, but you forgot to mention quite some programs - including Blender. Don't you think that there are people that like the approach and know other software - some of them quite well and even use them besides of and along with Blender?Vi si chiedeva semplicemente di dare una vostra impressione tra i vari software presenti sul mercato al fine di dare qualche consiglio ai programmatori per rendere piu' potente e intuitivo questo software.
If I want I can still install Maya here. I've got a (paid) license - though it's quite old (I'd have to check it but I think the last version I have is 6.x). I simply don't want to. I named you the reasons and so did others with their reasons. It's more incredible that you don't understand this...
Well, yes, your first posting was not offensive at all. No one considered it as that, I guess. But it was funny because you come over to a Blender forum asking which (foreign) UI shall be implemented and don't even mention Blender. That 's worth a good laugh, I would say.La richiesta era del tutto legittima e comunque non offensiva!!
You should note that this is not the problem. You should better realize that there are people out there that like the way it is (meaning the concept - not the status).Se vi siete offesi perché ho lasciato intendere che l'interfaccia di blender fa schifo mi dispiace..
As I mentioned before (and when your italian temper exploded you twisted my words - which in fact *is* offensive from my cultural background - seemingly not in Italy, but I could be wrong): Nobody claimed any perfection. But Blender is for recurring (modelling) work the most efficient program. It only needs minimal input to accomplish a task. Other software might be prettier and more "conventional" (though this has been proved wrong a couple of times) but needs more user input. This slows down your speed and is not as ergonomic.
Sure. This speed has its cost: You've got to learn the shortcuts and get used to the strange look and feel. It can pay you great dividends if you like that way of doing things. If you prefer an other approach then you should use a program that is more convenient for *you*. Which is totally ok.
So your approach to this topic is wrong and you should rethink your attitude.
Which is totally ok. You can have any opinion you want to have. So do I have my own and others theirs. Got it? No?questa é una mia opinione... mi dispiace veramente per voi credetemi..
That's a reason why such a rich variety of software exists. No one is forced to use a tool he doesn't want. And I for my part don't want [fill in the blank with any of the apps you've named].ma di fatto moltissime persone la pensano esattamente come me...
As I said: Check your attitude and the way you are propagating your so-called opinion. Seems more to me that *you* don't respect other ideas...rispettate anche le idee altrui altrimenti siete come i fascisti!!!
So you'd better keep things slow instead of using such a loud speech...
No, you did not understand or don't want to understand. That's for sure.Non sono un inglese madrelingua... ma di certo capisco quello che mi scrivete...
People got what you wrote. And many people are tired of writing the same answers to it over and over. (And please keep your cazzo where it belongs...)mentre voi sembrate non capire un cazzo di quello che scrivo io!!
Perhaps I would use Cinema 4D if was more like Blender. Who knows? But what do you think? Are they waiting for my helpful genius to dictate them what to do?Non ho mai scritto che vorrei Blender come Maya2... semmai lo vorrei + simile a Cinema 4D V10....
Got it now?
If you really want to improve an existing program (that you actually don't use but would like to use if it was some other program - whoo) you should at least know it, then concentrate on specific topics and make proposals that say what should be changed how and explain why it is better in comparison to the implemented solution. Making a "survey" on what different UI should be implemented is total nonsense, as people have different needs and ideas.
Honestly, we had this discussion too often and always came to one conclusion: Software will never be "intuitive" - especially if it comes to complex matter like 3D. There are only different ways. Some are better for some people, others are not. Some are more common, some easier to learn but more difficult in day by day usage, some are more efficient than other. And so on...Per quanto riguarda il discorso della manualistica.... se blender avesse un'interfaccia migliore forse + gente riuscirebbe ad usarlo anche senza tanti manuali e tutorial... e senza bisogno di spaccarsi la testa ad imparare hotkey ed a cercare in mezzo a menu' nascosti... comunque ribadisco... queste sono mie opinioni quindi ognuno é libero di pensarla come vuole...
So you always will need manuals, tutorials, etc. There's even a whole industry that makes loads of money with courses, training videos and instruction books! And there are plenty of help forums and the like. Especially around the applications you have named. So this one is a total non-point for you, as the real-world proves you wrong!
And so did people. The only thing is that you have totally underestimated that people like it that way - and even have good reasons for it. Though there's plenty room for improvement - so if you want to be helpful then pick something specific out, make a proposal and then we will see if it's better or not, if it can be realized at all or if there is even a better solution. This would be the right way.Quindi se proprio dovete entrare nel MIO TOPIC per dare risposte... datele almeno non contro una persona che voleva solo rendersi utile..
But trust me: The way you've set up your "survey" is not only time lost - it's a waste of time!Perdete piuttosto un attimo di tempo per dare qualche consiglio a chi può veramente fare qualcosa per migliorare un software che potrebbe surclassare in futuro i + blasonati software commerciali.
I did my very best in reading und tried to understand... I guess I've understood over 95% of it... But I'm no Italian at all...And now translate... geni che non siete altro..