A suggestion and a concern

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Alvaro
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A suggestion and a concern

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OK first the suggestion:

In Blenderartist.org, lately there are appearing interesting threads about the formation of local groups of Blender users that join together once a month or so to exchange their Blender experiences. I think it is a very nice idea, and I think it has potential.

My suggestion is some backing from the BF to those local groups. The simplest way, some space in Blender.org to tell the 'who, where, when' about those local groups.

The concern:

I don't know how to say it but lately I'm not so much in love with Blender as before. I keep on using it, but I feel that the gap between the comunity and the BF is growing. Maybe It is just a personal feeling. Maybe it is just that the gap between me and the BF is growing. :)

Anyway, at the time of the Blender code liberation and the online fund raising I read somewhere that a representative of the foundation members was going to be appointed to have a say in the BF decisions. I think that idea should be picked up again, extended to all Blender users, and a Blender Users representative should be created so the core team of the BF can heard what the Comunity has to say about the Blender present and future.

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Post by Alvaro »

I hope you realize about the differences between an online comunity of more or less anonymous users and a group of people that actually join together regularly to talk about Blender and exchange their knowledge.

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Post by stiv »

In Blenderartist.org, lately there are appearing interesting threads about the formation of local groups of Blender users that join together once a month or so to exchange their Blender experiences. I think it is a very nice idea, and I think it has potential.
So get moving and do something about it. Without motion, potential remains potential. Everything in Blender, including open source Blender itself, exists because someone decided to do something and did it. Others joined in.

Start your own local group. Post msgs in the forums and user groups that jesterKing mentioned. Put up posters in your local book stores/cafes/pubs/brothels/computer clubs or whereever people gather. (make a nice picture in Blender!) Meet somewhere.

You can do it.

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Post by Alvaro »

stiv, my proposal has nothing to do with me forming a local group. My proposal is about having a space for Blender Local Groups in the Blender.org site!

That page could list the different local groups in each contry, information, contact details, links to the groups webpages, etc.

Also it would be nice if the BF can send them books at discount, etc.

In another words, backing!

PD: example of what I mean
http://groups.adobe.com/pages/home

I'm not suggesting a full developed web 2.0 site like that but just a (nice) page in Blender.org!

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Post by jesterKing »

IMO the page I linked to is just that. The page is there to advertise to users about potential local groups. As one example, I run the #blender.fi site and try to activate Finnish users also locally.

The site is mentioned on the page, Finnish users can now find it through blender.org. After that it is up to the group "leaders" to ensure their groups won't die out. And IMO there's no amount of page space on blender.org that will help the local groups with that more than the current community page already can do. It's up to the people themselves.

/Nathan

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Post by Alvaro »

jesterKing wrote:IMO the page I linked to is just that. The page is there to advertise to users about potential local groups. As one example, I run the #blender.fi site and try to activate Finnish users also locally.

The site is mentioned on the page, Finnish users can now find it through blender.org. After that it is up to the group "leaders" to ensure their groups won't die out. And IMO there's no amount of page space on blender.org that will help the local groups with that more than the current community page already can do. It's up to the people themselves.

/Nathan
Nathan, I think you don't understand me. The Blender page you link is a list of on-line comunities with more or less national scope. I'm talking about local groups of people that meet regularly in a real place, like these ones:

http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=142906
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=142700
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=78022
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=125033
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=142415
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=142244

I think this is a relatively new phenomena in the Blender Comunity that can use some support from the BF. Also I think that this kind of comunity interaction has some advantatges and opens new oportunities compared with on-line based forum interaction.

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Post by sausages »

Personally, I would rather have the BF dedicate its time and resources to developing Blender, as opposed to managing groups of Blender users. As far as backing and discounts are concerned, I think things would get messy and the system would get abused. It would be cool to see these groups actually organizing ways to contribute to Blender, fundraising, devs working together, etc. Maybe even some friendly competition over who donates the most per year! Groups could charge dues to members which go can go to the BF.

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Post by jesterKing »

The page can also list such groups, if they are organised well enough. In the case of #blender.fi, we also do really meet each other in the flesh.

It is entirely up to such initiatives to promote themselves, and having themselves added to the page I mentioned is one way to do so.

/Nathan

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