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Post by pearl » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:48 am

Does Blender offer 64 bit processing? :shock:

I am impressed with Blender so far.

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Post by leinad13 » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:50 am

No it doesnt at the moment. Im not sure what we would have to do to get it supported either. I was wondering if we could just use a 64 bit compiler or whether we would need to change the code considerably.
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Post by pearl » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:54 am

64 bit for 3D apps would be sweet. :twisted:

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Post by Michel » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:36 am

leinad13 wrote:No it doesnt at the moment. Im not sure what we would have to do to get it supported either. I was wondering if we could just use a 64 bit compiler or whether we would need to change the code considerably.
Hi,

this is not possible because of C and C++.
By definition the size of an int is the size of a void * which is by definition dependant on the system. So on a 32-bit system, an int is 32 bit, on a 64-bit system this would be 64 bit.
You can imagine all the problems we will encounter.

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Post by Michel » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:39 am

pearl wrote:64 bit for 3D apps would be sweet. :twisted:
Hi,

explain to me, please, what the advantages would be for 64 bits over 32 bits?

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Post by IoN_PuLse » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:46 am

Michel: If people code in C/C++ properly (ie: cross-platform, with Blender is) than a 64-bit binary could be made as easily as just recompiling the source in 64-bit mode.

Requirement to use a 64-bit app: A 64-bit processor and OS! So if you are a windows user, you're out of luck right now. Linux has had this for some time though.

Advantages: You'll be able to run Blender on a 64-bit CPU and OS? Take advantage of the 64-bitness of the CPU for more bandwidth across the board?

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Post by ilac » Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:03 am

Wasn't Blender's original SGi version 64-bit? I seem to remember reading that somewhere...

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Post by rhinoguy » Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:23 pm

I think a lot of people may be wondering about this because of AMD's intorduction of their 64 bit processor. I believe that Microsoft is planning a 64 bit OS version. It may be a good idea for the Blender community to give serious consideration to compiling a 64 bit version. Others (software that is) may be planning to do the same.

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Post by knoxer » Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:44 pm

Don't forget about Mac OS X and the G5 processor (IBM PowerPC 970). Although OS X is not a fully 64 bit OS yet (for compatability) it does support >4GB of RAM and 64-bit integers.

There are advantages to having a 64 bit version of Blender available, most people will never notice the difference though. The bigest benefit will be perception, a lot of people think that 64 bit processing is the greatest thing ever... they don't care that they can't (yet) get much advantage from it.

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Windows? Who cares about windows.

Post by pearl » Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:55 pm

Who cares about a 64 bit version of Windows when we already have linux?!

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Post by mmh » Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:31 pm

hem, if blender run on Irix, what do you conclude?? :p

a 3D Program or Renderer manipulates what? floats
and what's the advantage of 64bits?
well, i let you think about it



in clear, it will be a great BOOST

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Post by pearl » Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:59 pm

mmh wrote: and what's the advantage of 64bits?

Answer: 64 bit floats, as opposed to 32 bit floats. :shock:

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Post by thermal_ice » Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:55 pm

Who cares about a 64 bit version of Windows when we already have linux?!
64 bit xp available from M$ for testing :shock:

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Post by IoN_PuLse » Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:59 am

And you need 64-bit drivers to get it going too. Sucks. Linux has had this ability for some time, and is a hell of a lot more mature.

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