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Who pays for all of this?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:08 am
by SamAdam
So I was thinking, oh, hey, both elysiun and have ads on them for the blender foundation. And since I know that websites aren't operated for free, and Ton has to get money to eat, where does all of the money come from?

Is there still money left over from the blender open source drive?

Are we selling that many books and t-shirts?

Are we just hoping that no one at the hosting company will notice that hasn't paid its fee in three years?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:46 am
by levon
on the main page on the right column there is a little box saying who sponsors are. i guess they pay for it.

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:52 am
by joeri
Things I'm told:

The e-shop is doing well. Ton (and some) could live from that.
Verse has a big EU sponsoring, and bf gets some of that (the sponsoring to verse was assigned after blender was included in the verse project) and are sponsored by dutch provider XS4ALL.
Elysiun is private funded (by Timothy and Goofster I guess)

And there are personal sponsors:

As far as I know the bf employes 3 people
Ton, fulltime and +
Anja, 1 day a week, eshop
Angela, 1 day a week (heavy speculating here), conference

Then there is the big amount of volunteers.
Not only developers but also website builders, maintainers and system administrators. Conference helpers (booklet, webcam, report, onsite hands). All without fee.

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:09 pm
by SamAdam
oh, thanks.

I didn't think a company as big as Nokia would be a sponsor.

That's interesting.

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:18 pm
by Goofster
elYsiun is currently being funded by Stefano (S68). We're looking for sponsorship though, so we're open to suggestions!


Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:55 pm
by SamAdam
i bet that if you started another fundraiser you could get a couple thousand dollars together real quick.

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:21 pm
by ton
Hrms... the BF paid for all Elysiun hosting costs in 2004 (to S68) and most of the costs in 2003 (to Tim).

I've asked Tim to try to seek for a sponsor too, since BF gets fully sponsored for internet (XS4all)... a bit weird to still spend money on hosting then!

Although I find Elysiun very important to survive, it's also important it can survive independently. But in worst case, still don't mind to backup. :)

(Yes, the BF should put online a new financial year report. Only did that for first year.)

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:16 pm
by joeri
I knew there was a reason for the "independant" mixup.
Thank you Ton for clearing this up.

Ofcourse this opens my threat "let's stop elysiun and move the user forum to" ... Seems it's BF after all.

(/me hides at a long snowboard weekend in austria)

worst comes to worst

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