bf-blender / Windows (2004/10/29)

ElBarto · Post by **ElBarto** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:29 pm

@ Mel_Q and Actarus:
Start Blender, go to rendering setting turn Passepartout on and save your user preferences with ctrl+u.
Next time you using Blender it will be always on

Monkeyboi · Post by **Monkeyboi** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:40 pm

ElBarto: I'm quite sure you missed thier point...

What they are sayning is that there is no need to add extra bloat to the software in the shape of too many controls the user doen't need. You could remove the passepartout option and have it on all the time, and it wouldn't bloat up the render buttons.

Maybe it could just be moved to the Camera edit buttons though - good space their, and you could set it per camera. Or in View Properties?

Mel_Q · Post by **Mel_Q** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:06 pm

ElBarto wrote:@ Mel_Q and Actarus:
Start Blender, go to rendering setting turn Passepartout on and save your user preferences with ctrl+u.
Next time you using Blender it will be always on

??
I'm satisfied with it. I think Actarus may have a valid point, looking at the rather sparse camera edit settings. Even when using Yafray, there's a total of ten 'clickable' areas on three panels, while the output panel has around 23.
I don't have a problem with where it is though.

CDI3D · Post by **CDI3D** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:41 pm

Is this a bug?

When attempting a dupliframe "loft" I run into some weirdness.

Normally I would Apply Size and Rotation before parenting my dupli object to my path.

Well in the latest build when I turn on dupliframe and then attempt to make the dupli real I get asked again if I want to apply size and rotation. I click to confirm I do and then I recieve:

ERROR: Unable to apply to a multiuser curve

This doesnt happen in the "official" 2.34 version.

I apologize for tagging this on to the end of this post I tried to access the bug tracker but the page wouldnt load.

bleen · Post by **bleen** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:54 pm

bug:
blender crashs (sometimes) when you will loop subdivide fgon faces!

http://home.arcor.de/crazydesign/probs/ ... de_bug.avi

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bleen

Actarus · Post by **Actarus** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:53 am

ElBarto wrote:Start Blender, go to rendering setting turn Passepartout on and save your user preferences with ctrl+u.

Thanks ElBarto, but I already knew how to save my settings (Ctrl+U).

I just meant that I fear one day there will be too many controls and options on the screen.

If we choose to keep the passepartout as an option, we should put it on the camera settings (like "Show limits") it would be more logical (it is NOT a render setting !!!!).

theeth · Post by **theeth** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:40 am

Actarus wrote:(it is NOT a render setting !!!!).

No, but as it's implement right now, it's a Scene setting and the tooltip of this window indicates, it's in the Scene Settings. Granted, these are in majority Render settings, except maybe for the Set.

Martin

Actarus · Post by **Actarus** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:27 am

Ooops ... we are getting far away the initial purpose of this subject (testing this build) .... I apologize.

ElBarto · Post by **ElBarto** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:19 am

@bleen

Please post it at the bug tracker!

matt_e · Post by **matt_e** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:00 pm

theeth wrote:
Actarus wrote:(it is NOT a render setting !!!!).
No, but as it's implement right now, it's a Scene setting and the tooltip of this window indicates, it's in the Scene Settings. Granted, these are in majority Render settings, except maybe for the Set.

Martin

I think the point of that post was to mention what it should be, not what it currently is internally

It would make a lot more sense if it were per-view or per-camera - it really has nothing to do with the contents or output of the scene, it's a visualisation tool.

Can someone whine about this on my behalf in the meeting or on IRC or something?

theeth · Post by **theeth** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:03 pm

broken wrote:
theeth wrote:
Actarus wrote:(it is NOT a render setting !!!!).
No, but as it's implement right now, it's a Scene setting and the tooltip of this window indicates, it's in the Scene Settings. Granted, these are in majority Render settings, except maybe for the Set.

Martin
I think the point of that post was to mention what it should be, not what it currently is internally

I know, I was just nitpicking

It would make a lot more sense if it were per-view or per-camera - it really has nothing to do with the contents or output of the scene, it's a visualisation tool.

Personnally, I'd put it in the Vew Settings floating panel.

Can someone whine about this on my behalf in the meeting or on IRC or something?

Sure can.

Martin

CDI3D · Post by **CDI3D** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:18 pm

So is my ERROR: on second application of Size and Rotation I asked about earlier a bug or not?

etienneL · Post by **etienneL** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:20 pm

Hi everyone,
Could these features be tested in the new builds?

Could the Knife feature (Shift K) behave like the Loop Subdivide (Ctlr R)
to let use "slide" the cutting edges ?
It would give us more control than the Exact line or Midpoint options.

Plus: when edges are selected in a mesh (loop or just part of) would it be possible to have this "slide" feature.

Thx.

Bellorum · Post by **Bellorum** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:30 pm

Slide is kewl

I'm also hoping for that feature.

Usagi · Post by **Usagi** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:47 pm

Contrary to 2.34 selection of hidden vertices in shaded mode is no longer possible by default. How can I turn it on? I didn't find a switch in user preferences.