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Post by Jonofwrath » Fri May 25, 2012 10:29 am

ldo wrote:I can tell you why. This is the difference between local versus global coordinates. Each object has its own transformation, which is applied to the coordinates of the mesh vertices for display/rendering in the final scene. This transformation can include, not just translation to a different position, but also rotation and scaling. If in your first example you rescaled one of the cylinders (in object mode, not edit mode), to, say, 2× the size of the other one, then replaced the meshes as you did before, you will find that the enlarged cylinder becomes a correspondingly larger cube.

However, if you went into edit mode on that cylinder, selected all its vertices and scaled by 2×, then switched back to object mode and did the mesh replacement, you will find it does not end up as a larger cube. This is because your scaling in edit mode was affecting the positions of the cylinder vertices (which you were then throwing away), not the overall object transformation.

Anyway, from your description I think the Sketchup importer is creating a bunch of objects that all effectively share the same origin, it’s just their actual vertex coordinates that are differently positioned. Which sounds like a stupid way of doing things.

You can check this, by selecting each object in turn, and looking for the fat orange dot indicating the origin of its coordinate system. This should normally be somewhere within the object itself, not way outside elsewhere.

Anyway, you can fix this by selecting all the troublesome objects, and in the “Object” menu, “Transform” submenu, use the option “Origin to Geometry”.
Thanks for your help.

I don't have that option in that menu, but I can use the shortcut ctrl+shift+alt+c to do the same, which works - thanks!

One more thing then I'll be sorted...

Imagine seats on a roundabout - they'll all be the same mesh but different locations and rotations. I can now link the mesh to one of them, keep their own locations, but currently they all share the same rotation data as the parent seat, rather than following the circle the key to make the centre of the circle their origin?

Thanks, again, for your help.

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Post by Jonofwrath » Fri May 25, 2012 12:53 pm

I set origin to geometry, set their object date tab name to that of the parent seat and then just rotated them since there was only 6 seats...would be good to know how allow the child seats to keep their rotation rather than keep that of the parent object.


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